Purpose

To consolidate, disseminate, and gather information concerning the 710 expansion into our San Rafael neighborhood and into our surrounding neighborhoods. If you have an item that you would like posted on this blog, please e-mail the item to Peggy Drouet at pdrouet@earthlink.net

Saturday, July 13, 2013

Update to "710 Tunnel Shock to Alhambra Residents"

Original post: 

710 Tunnel Toll Shock to Alhambra Residents

https://www.facebook.com/ILoveAlhambra

(I missed putting the replies to some of the comments and now there are also new comments, so I am going to start at the beginning, therefore some posts appearing below will be repeats from the previous post.)


 From Sylvia Plummer, July 13, 2013

For your information: 

There are two ladies that are making comments about for the 710 with no facts to back them up, they are the daughters of Barbara Messina:  Thanks to Carol Kramer for spotting these two.




Here one of them admits it a toll:

Kristen Messina Puccinelli They had it on July 10th, 7-10, get it? Sorry that 7/10 didn't fall on a Saturday this year. And would it have been better to have it during morning or evening rush hour? The fact that it's a toll is not "hidden". Those people who care enough to educate themselves on the subject know what the plan is.

Peggy Drouet: We got the July 10th, 7-10: very cute. If you didn't need to be cute, you could have held 710 Day on a Saturday or a Sunday so that more of your Alhambra neighbors and residents could have attended and become "educated." But then Alhambra would have had to pay all the city workers who showed up (ordered to show up?) in their blue shirts time and a half or double time as it wouldn't have been a regular work day.

If a city is going to decide for its residents what is the best option presented in the 710 Study, as Alhambra has, then it is their job to educate them completely as to why they made that decision for them.


 Kristen Messina Puccinelli California drivers need to realize that toll roads are the future. I just spent 10 days on the East Coast and paid a toll on every road I drove on in New Jersey, New York, Connecticut and Massachusetts. And what about the carpool lanes on the 10 and 110 freeways being a pay toll now? See, it's simply the future of transportation. Not a hidden agenda..

Peggy Drouet: There has always been toll roads in the East. What you fail to understand is that this has been the way these states have financed their highways. California has always financed their highways through our gas tax, which is now the highest in the nation.

 Teresa Messina Juarez What a good idea Peggy Tyarks Drouet an east/west freeway that runs through Alhambra , Monterey Park, San Gabriel, Rosemead and connects up with the 605!. Oh wait that freeway was built 50 years ago it's called the
I-10.


Teresa was replying to a post of mine: 
 The traffic on the 210 is horrendous much of the day now and keeps getting worse. Add to it the truck traffic from the 215 that will travel on the 210 to the 710 tunnel to get to the ports and vice versa and you will have massive gridlock. That should
 not take long to happen after the tunnel is built. So what would be the solution? Simple, build a new east-west freeway through Alhambra, San Gabriel, Rosemead, Temple City and El Monte to the 605. Don't expect Pasadena to fight a new east-west freeway. They would welcome anything to reduce traffic on the 210.

Peggy Drouet: Teresa, you missed the point of my post: With increased congestion on the 210 after the tunnel is built, another east-west freeway, a new one, in addition to those already there, will have to be built.

 
 
Teresa Messina Juarez Also they will not collect tolls indefinitely. It is for a defined period to cover the cost of the road. Please don't base your opinion on facts you've collected from a no710 website.

Peggy Drouet: If what you say is so, then who is going to pay for the upkeep of the tunnel, including 24-hour monitoring, normal repairs and repairs after accidents and fires, after-earthquake realignment, new ventilators after the original ones are past their use date, etc., etc., etc., after the investors are paid off? There will always be tolls for using the tunnel to pay for these continuing expenses unless you expect the taxpayers of Los Angeles County, most who won't be using the tunnel whether it is tolled or not, to pick up the tab.
I Love Alhambra Ca


I`m Pissed ! 710 Fwy Extension 99% sure it will be a Toll rd.

And that is not good for 90% of the people and 190,000 more autos and trucks will go from 6 lanes down to 2 to get ready to enter into a double decker tunnel but once all that
  traffic see`s that they have to pay then guess what ? Yes off on Valley which produces more traffic so No less traffic and you have to pay for it.

I was for the extension all my life until today that I heard that it will be a Toll rd, I say Hell NO ! What do you say now ?

  • Peggy Tyarks Drouet The traffic on the 210 is horrendous much of the day now and keeps getting worse. Add to it the truck traffic from the 215 that will travel on the 210 to the 710 tunnel to get to the ports and vice versa and you will have massive gridlock. That should
     not take long to happen after the tunnel is built. So what would be the solution? Simple, build a new east-west freeway through Alhambra, San Gabriel, Rosemead, Temple City and El Monte to the 605. Don't expect Pasadena to fight a new east-west freeway. They would welcome anything to reduce traffic on the 210.
  • Peggy Tyarks Drouet Alhambra 710 Information Cards http://www.710studysanrafaelneighborhoodposts.com/2013/07/alhambra-710-information-cards.html

    Peggy Tyarks Drouet Who do you think will be paying the tolls for the 710 tunnel for your elected officials? Could it be you, the taxpayers, a good number of you who won't be able to afford the tolls yourselves? Who pays the tolls for these people now for them to use the 110 and 10 toll lanes? Something to find out.
  • Kristen Messina Puccinelli How can an "I Love Alhambra" FB page be against the 710? The City of Alhambra needs to close the gap to alleviate traffic and pollution on its city streets. Sure, some people may not want to pay a toll, but many will, and that will be that many less cars exiting into Alhambra and creating congestion on Valley and Fremont.

    I Love Alhambra Ca replied · 5 Replies
    • Kristen can you guarantee less traffic after its all done, You say many will pay the toll is that Half or maybe 10% , Most Toll rds are not successful and if more turn on the 710 thinking that they are going straight to Pasadena and then find out they must pay then what ? and there are no exits along the way until the end, also with the only exhaust coming out at both ends well I guess Alhambra gets it again
    • Kristen Messina Puccinelli It's not my place to guarantee anything. To me, it's just common sense. Everyone has to exit now anyway. If there is an option to go forward, some people - whatever that percentage is, will continue, thus less cars on the street.
    • Greg Stonebraker You enjoy paying for something your taxes already paid for? That's exactly what tolls roads are. Bunch of BS!
    • Dan Georgino The freeway is going to be funded with tax payers money and they force you to pay to use it while they get paid to do nothing. It's called their pension plan.
     Guys, the toll will be $5 to $20 per trip. That's up to $40 per day, 5 days per week if you use it to go to work. We're all fairly smart here so do the math and then choke. The tolls will not go to the state. The tolls will be used to pay off the foreign entity that contracts to build the tunnel. The last I heard at a Metro meeting was that it's a company in Spain. Another fact is that the tunnel will have NO EXITS. You will go in one end and out the other end. Therefore, if you work or live somewhere in between the two portals you will have to go past your destination and double back on the surface streets or avoid the tunnel altogether and use the surface streets. The fact that there are no exits is not only inefficient and inconvenient but dangerous. It also pretty much points to the tunnel being mainly used for container trucks from the ports no matter what you have been told. Metro spokespersons vacillate (lie) depending on who they are talking to and who they think they can fool. Doug Failing has been confronted numerous times regarding his documented conflicting statements. I get my information by studying Metro documents and attending meetings.
  • Angelo Glorioso I say, people WILL pay a toll if it gets them somewhere faster. That's my opinion and I'm sticking to it!!

    I Love Alhambra Ca replied · 5 Replies
  • Rex Berry Freeway yes! Toll road...NO! People are tired of paying for the state's mistakes!







  • I Love Alhambra Ca I was for the Extension all my life until I heard it will be a Toll rd and that is a NO No for sure !
    I Love Alhambra Ca Angelo and what about all the other 90% who won`t pay Ii have never payed a toll and $5.00 - $10.00 each way I dont think so, and so that means 90% of the people will exit and guess where ?
  • Cyndee Farrell I say be neutral on this page and don't talk about your personal opinions, likes, dislikes, etc. on a I Love Alhambra page. Inform us, yes! Entertain us, yes! Personal Opinions....not so much.
  • I Love Alhambra Ca replied · 2 Replies
     I Love Alhambra Ca
    • Frank it`s not So. Pas fault like I use to think too, it was bad planning when they started that freeway and they got into trouble so they let it sit there for 40 years or so, Do you think if they decided to build a freeway through San Marino that they would not run into the same problem ? you just don`t go and tear down beautiful old mansions and Colony types homes without doing your homework, They should have had a complete plan back then and the property to do it but instead they blame So.pas and so i believed them too.

    • Peggy Tyarks Drouet No decision has been made as to how long, via tolls, it will take to pay off the tunnel investors. Don't forget, there is also maintenance of the tunnel, everyday operation of it including 24-hour monitoring, emergency personnel, etc. Who will pay for that also hasn't been decided.

    • Sylvia Plummer Most of the PPP toll roads have lease deals between 75 and 99 years and non-compete clauses.
      http://cdn.publicinterestnetwork.org/assets/H5Ql0NcoPVeVJwymwlURRw/Private-Roads-Public-Costs.pdf

    • Vicki Kea For those who are unfamiliar with the term PPP, it means public/private partnerships

      • Rich Gilliam Forget it, don't build it. This wont do anything for traffic. It will create some jobs for awhile but that's it. This is a joke. So the state of California just wants more of your tax dollars ? I think the City of Alhambra should now fight the construction and try to stop the 710 (sorry to say that)
        • I Love Alhambra Ca Rich I think you are really Right ! I would have more respect for them if they did fight ! thanks - rich
      • Glen Stanley I would expect nothing less from the idiot democrats that run LA County and Calif. The #91 toll started out at 50 cents, not its $5.
      • Lupe Caballero This 710 fwy issue has been going on even before I was born! I think by now Cal trans and/or state of California should stop wasting our tax dollars for studies, etc. I live near the proposed route and I wouldn't want a toll road, tunnel, freeway, etc., close to my home. It's a nice quiet area and I hope it stays that way. I know some people think differently and for that I'm sorry. Thanks!

        I Love Alhambra Ca Teresa what are your facts and where did they come from? Will this become a Toll rd? Will this decrease traffic on valley or fremont ? Not collect Tolls indefinetely is what they said about the Golden Gate bridge and not only did they not stop the Toll but they increased it and increased it. Get Real
        I Love Alhambra Ca Rich Gilliam Wow somehow deep down inside I feel the same way and I think you are right ! Thanks for your post - rich
    Christina Garcia Sons of Bitches! A toll road?!!...They knew people would hate this idea, thats why they had their little festival during the week in the middle of the day! How convienant! Only unemployed people who don't drive anywhere important can attend. Yeah perfect! Give them t-shirts, fans on a stick, balloon animals and shoot confetti in their faces and they'll love it! Meanwhile they prob slightly mentioned "oh yeah btw the expansion includes a toll road cough*"...pfftt!!...

    • I Love Alhambra Ca Lupe that`s a nice comment !

       
       
      • Kristen Messina Puccinelli They had it on July 10th, 7-10, get it? Sorry that 7/10 didn't fall on a Saturday this year. And would it have been better to have it during morning or evening rush hour? The fact that it's a toll is not "hidden". Those people who care enough to educate themselves on the subject know what the plan is.
         
         
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        • I Love Alhambra Ca Christina You said it so dam good !
           
        • I Love Alhambra Ca Teresa Messina Juarez Here is my logic and yes I know that the 710 dumps out on VALLEY FOR I HAVE BEEN IN THAT TRAFFIC JAM too many times to mention however once the freeways (Toll rd ) is connected all the way to Pasadena the signs on other freeways like the 60 and the 5 etc... will say Pasadena north turn left lets say and people not knowing better will simply think they are going to go to Pasadena on the Freeway and then a few miles up the road they see the sign that it will cost you at least $5.00 or more, it`s at this point the people will want off and the only off ramp before the tunnel will be Valley and that`s what i would do to is to get off. They predict this extra traffic will be 190,000 cars a day and if only a small % of them will use the toll road then guess what ?
           
           
        • I Love Alhambra Ca Theresa My mother remembers them saying that they would only collect fees for the Golden gate bridge for a year to pay for the bridge not only did they not stop the fees but continued to raise them ever since !
           
           
        • I Love Alhambra Ca Linda just ask them and Cal trans, All will tell you that`s the most likely to help raise 12 billion dollars and some say it could go over 20 billion dollars
           
          • William Paul Shivers To take a suggestion from someone else... Extend the 710 to Huntington Drive, It can then be South Pasadena's problem....

            Ignacio Mata How can anyone who Alhambra be against the 710 no matter if it's a toll rd. Is the creator of I Love Alhambra a South Pas resident? Close the gap!!!
          • Tawnya Lange I like any change that improves traffic movement and gets a few people off our Alhambra roads...people will pay - it may not have to be Alhambran's - but I think the road should be finished to provide an option.

          • Suzanne LePage Please just finish the darn freeway it's been like that since I've been born

            I Love Alhambra Ca Yes who uses Toll rds now only about 10% of the people and that is not a good reason to spend 10 billion dollars and It will not ease the traffic but worsen it !
          • Denice Zabinski Leave it to Jerry Brown to screw the people of CA again (and again)!!!!

          • Shelley Cavallaro Kresan I say no to all toll roads in California. That what our taxes are SUPPOSED to pay for.

          • Teresa Messina Juarez They all exit now and create traffic on our streets. With the extension many will stay on the freeway. The toll road allows the extension to be built without a lot of extra taxpayer money. I say do a little more research on the topic before you change your opinion.
             
             
          • Marc Gilutin Well, on the positive side, it'll ease up the traffic on Fremont and Fair Oaks a little.
             
             
          • Alvaro Bob Gonzales NOW you are starting to see the rhetoric that Metro & CalTrans have been spreading. AND...the state cannot even afford what the tunnel would cost to build!!!
             

      • Brunie Sirias No on 710!!!!!!!

      • Linda Malcor Who's saying its going to be a toll road? Is it going to be a toll tunnel? Whatever "they" say it's going to be, I doubt any of us will see it in our lifetime.

      • Carilla Clements Ummm toll roads r an elitist ploy to keep the supposed middle class happy...tell a single parent ur in favor wen they only have 20¢ in their change tray n have to travel another route only to b late in picking up their kids from school cus they dont have enuff for the tolls...n pls dont say they should b more prepared...Lord have mercy!

        Carmelita MacPherson-Haltom Imagine that! Karma...So. Pas, Pas etc.
      • Tom Hernandez Really? A toll road? HELL NO!!
        I say build the fwy above ground so everybody can use it. South Pasadena get over it. Its called progress.
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        • Vicki Kea Above or below, it is too costly and it will be a tollway because the tolls will pay the foreign entity that contracts with Metro and CalTrans to build it.
      • Joanne Nuckols That would be 100% it will be a toll road, not 99%, guaranteed!

      • Sharon James I waited 30 years and nothing was done..so if it will be a toll road it will take another 30 years...it is such a short distance. The toll roads are so much better than FW's plus they maintain them. I do NOT see it happening. We will all be dead by then.
    • Tony Alcazar Its affecting Alhambra citizens of course we should talk about it!!!!
       

  • Teresa Messina Juarez Also they will not collect tolls indefinitely. It is for a defined period to cover the cost of the road. Please don't base your opinion on facts you've collected from a no710 website.

    I Love Alhambra Ca replied · 4 Replies · 12 minutes ago
  • Rich Gilliam Forget it, don't build it. This wont do anything for traffic. It will create some jobs for awhile but that's it. This is a joke. So the state of California just wants more of your tax dollars ? I think the City of Alhambra should now fight the construction and try to stop the 710 (sorry to say that)

  • I Love Alhambra Ca Rich I think you are really Right ! I would have more respect for them if they did fight ! thanks - rich
  • Rex Berry Freeway yes! Toll road...NO! People are tired of paying for the state's mistakes!



    • Michael Strauss I am sick of our government all they do is find ways to rip us off and yes we do need that freeway 2 is the traffic on the streets

      I say yes to the 710 no to toll roads and in peach our government officials for not doing their job which is supposed to look out for us

      Is there anyway we can fight this this is bullshit

    • Michael James It's been 40+ years, forget the toll. You wont be around when its finished anyway. The city of Pas. must have a BIG cut of the pie to go against the moneyholders . By the time its all said and done they will need a double-decker for the area.

    • Kristen Messina Puccinelli California drivers need to realize that toll roads are the future. I just spent 10 days on the East Coast and paid a toll on every road I drove on in New Jersey, New York, Connecticut and Massachusetts. And what about the carpool lanes on the 10 and 110 freeways being a pay toll now? See, it's simply the future of transportation. Not a hidden agenda...

      • Vicki Kea And how much were those tolls? Would you pay $20 each way? And just because others have done it doesn't mean we have to. We are at a point where there is actually a choice to do better and build transit. You do know that there will be no exits except the two portals which means if you live or work somewhere in between you will have to either pass your destination and double back on surface streets or not enter the tunnel and use the surface streets anyway.

    • Frank Bodeman well I say put a toll exit on Valley blvd also that would move the traffic LOL

    • Elena Solorzano No to 710 extension.

    • Linda L Moody I don't mind tolls as long as it's used for repairs. I say yes!
       
      Teresa Messina Juarez Also the website you reference is a no 710 website
       
       
      Vicki Kea It also only posts facts gathered from prominent scientists and doctors and from metro's own websites. It is a clearinghouse so to speak for important documents found by mining Metro's site. A lot of work has gone into posting documents for information for those who do not have the time or the ability to do so.


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    • John Picone Toll will be $5 - $15 each way. MetroTrans keeps this factoid well-hidden!
       
    • Michael Beltran How about Toll until the construction costs are paid for? WIN/WIN
       
       
    • Tom Hernandez The whole point of the 710 is to get cars off of Freemont.
      YES ON 710!!
      NO ON TOLL ROAD!!
       
       
    • Steven Lam People will pay to use this road and it's going to be more than 10%. Just look at all the things people pay for nowadays out of convenience and time savings to keep up with the hustle bustle...smart phones with higher cost service fees, hybrid vehicles for that carpool sticker to get to somewhere faster (when it was offered of course). For those that choose not to pay for it as a toll road, it stills benefits you because all you have to do is take the exit and take the old route (and your old route will be less congested).
       
       
    • Vicki Kea No exit from the tunnels. You enter one end and come out the other. No exits between.
       
      • Ernie Santiago Continue the 710.
         
         
      • Ray Edey Good reason to move to palm desert.
         
         
      • Patty Slimak They paved Paradise and put up a parking lot!
         
         
      • Frank Romero Thank South Pasadena. You live in Los Angeles county not Mayberry. Funny they have no problems tearing up Fremont and polluting their neighbors.
         
         
        • Ellen Biasin I find it curious when 710 supporters single out the City of South Pasadena for blame. Actually there are many cities which have passed measures opposing the 710 tunnel: Los Angeles, Glendale, La Canada, Sierra Madre, La Crescenta Town Council in addition to the city of South Pasadena. In Pasadena, the mayor and three council members oppose the 710 tunnel.
           
           
           
      • Dulcy Jenkins That's just one of the proposals, and a yukky one, but ONE of the proposals.
         
         
      • Joelanda Presley It's all part of South Pasadenas plan. Its been that way for years.
         
         
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      • Sandra Montoya I don't think it will ever be completed let alone a toll road!
         
      • Adrian Alexander Garcia Theyve been going back and forth on this for decades. It's about as sure as a Football team coming into town and a stadium being built for it.
         
        • Dan Georgino I say it should go where it was supposed to. Someone built on that land when they were not supposed to. Now move them and build the freeway.

          LR Garcia UNLIKE! The 710 is just as bad as the 5 freeway and now they want to make it worse!? I was alsready pissed off when they made the 10 freeway carpool lane into a toll lane now I am just furious

          Chuck San Dimas I could care less. Bulldose the houses or make it a toll road. Can see it from San Dimas and don't plan on staying in California. Too many liberals and high taxes. What's worse is that everyone compains but does nothing to change it. Same crappy politicians screwing California.

          Carilla Clements Once again we pay for our own freedom...ugh

          Alex Gonzales No freeway





        • Christina Garcia Captain Kelly, telling it like it is!...

        • Jane Demian This is a really wonderful FB page and I commend the moderators on their choice of photos and subjects. I just want to add about the 710, that I understand Alhambra has congestion from traffic spilling out onto your streets. But the tunnel will not solve the problem because most people will NOT pay the toll. (Yes 100% sure there will be a toll). So you will still have people getting off the freeway in Alhambra. Also there will be no exits in the tunnel, so for those people who want to exit somewhere in Pasadena, they will have to drive all the way to Lake on the 210 to exit the tunnel. I think Alhambra should close the 710 stub north of the 10 frwy, and look for other means of transportation such as light rail, or widen another north south street to get to the 210. that way 710 traffic will be diverted to the 10 frwy and will not spill onto Alhambra streets.

          Jennifer Kokoris I am fascinated by toll roads....our taxes already pay for and support the road...why would this particular piece of road need a charge....I have lived here my who life...it was proven in the past...Alhambra did some hinky move with the signals to ensure congestion...there congetion at "rush" hour on every freeway...wehave too many people and not enough road....now my question Ms. Puccinelli...will you pay my toll and give up yhou home to expand the freeway?

          Rebecca Hoist Officials say "Close the Gap"...they don't state the facts. Thank you for your post Ellen....there is much more you did not mention that can make our hair stand up....let alone raise our blood pressure. I like a Rail System alternative if we really want to take cars off the road and eliminate traffic. Who is going to pay a toll to go 4.5 miles and risk being stuck in a traffic jam/accident with no exits....Yuk! Really? Also, the 10 story building at both ends of tunnel to exhaust all the toxic fumes.....Officials claim cleaner air....for who? Not Alhambra residents. Fremont will be Fremont forever. And how will all the residents in all the new condominiums in Alhambra get to their homes....you got it....the streets! Let's build a Rail and Metro System that will serve the residents of Alhambra and take us into the future. The Ports of LA can build their rail system to transport box cars to northern California. Minimize the trucks on our freeways. That's enough of my opinion for now. BTW I lived in a home purchased by State in 1960's. I also lived on Fremont. And today, I drive on Fremont everyday. With a tunnel. I will still drive on Fremont, because the tunnel will not serve me at all. Literally!



        • Rebecca Hoist Posted by Ellen Biasin... The 710 tunnel alternative is favored by METRO and supported by the Alhambra city council. It is a very expensive project at least $5.3 billion and since these types of projects are usually under budgeted the actual cost will be more like $10-15 billion. There are no public funds to build this project so it would have to be done in a partnership with a private company. This means it would have to be a toll tunnel so the private partner could recoup its investment. Tolls would have to be at least $5 but could be as high as $12 for a one way trip. From the south portal below Valley Blvd. to the 210 freeway there will be NO EXITS so it will not help local commuters who MUST continue to use surface streets. Bear in mind that there are plans to widen the lower 710 freeway from the Ports to the 60 freeway to 14 LANES. The real purpose of the 710 expansions to both the lower and upper 710 is to facilitate traffic from the ports. If this happens, it will make traffic congestion worse, much worse, not better as Freeway proponents claim. CONSTRUCTION WILL TAKE AN ESTIMATED 10 YEARS and will include digging a 200 foot deep trench between the 710 terminus below the 10 Freeway to Valley Blvd. and adjacent to residential neighborhoods in West Alhambra. Don't take anyone's word for it, do your own research and ask questions of your elected officials.

          Kristen Clark #NO710 clearly the people who r behind wanting to extend the 710 don't care about the fact that they're gonna ruin people's neighborhoods by putting a freeway right down the middle of there neighborhood. Therefore, causing values of homes to decrease A LOT. Alhambra needs to get over the fact that so much traffic occurs on there streets and just deal with it


        • Teresa Messina Juarez What a good idea Peggy Tyarks Drouet an east/west freeway that runs through Alhambra , Monterey Park, San Gabriel, Rosemead and connects up with the 605!. Oh wait that freeway was built 50 years ago it's called the
          I-10.
           
           
        • Terry Stanley Don't like toll rds don't go to Baja
           
           
        • Yvonne Hahni No to toll road. None of the major freeways I saw built in the last 55 years were toll roads. Toll roads are the new kid on the block. There should be better ways.
           
        • Frank Rizzio Glad I bailed outta there in 89
           
        • Flexjenpenizzy CA More cars, more traffic, more smog, more polution..No thanks..
           
           
        • Crystal Vargas Sucks that it will be a toll road..i guess i will stick with taking Fremont all the way up
           
           
        • Susan Bowen McGregor anyone who lives near this freeway, i.e. the 210 corridor will be sorry - eithr way, but toll road sucks
           
           
        • Teresa Messina Juarez There are toll roads Orange County
           
           
        • Shelly Sovern Garrett I don't believe there has ever been a toll on any roads in California before-I may be wrong...wow. I can't imagine that doing anything but create delays...that's crazy
           
           
        • Teresa Messina Juarez I still don't see your logic. How will it create "more traffic" on Valley when right now the freeway ends on Valley and all the through traffic is dumped out onto Valley.
           
           
        • Leslie Almeida there are meetings being held all week, informational sessions for people in neighborhoods that will be effected by this. i am one of them, so i say NO!
           
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        • Sylvia Plummer Measure R funds are insufficient to build the tunnels. It can only be built through a Public-Private Partnership, and this necessitates that it will be tolled. Take a look at Metro's presentation on April 24, 2013. It states they are studying the tunnel with tolls. (pages 17 & 62) http://media.metro.net/projects_studies/sr_710/images/SR710_tac_meeting_10_032513.pdf
           
           
        • Jesse Cruz what about all the people losing their homes? and guess who's paying for it.. all of us..
          and you all know tons of money will be wasted, as that's what the government is good at, wasting other people's money.
           
           
        • Isaac Elisaldez Tolls thems, I says!!
           
        • Gerard Au And picture something like this happening INSIDE THE TUNNEL... http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/Fire-Shuts-Stretch-of-I-5-Fwy-Glendale-215380901.html
          www.nbclosangeles.com
          A tanker truck fire shut down a stretch of Glendale (2) Freeway near the Golden State (5) Freeway on Saturday.
           
           
        • Jan SooHoo It can only be built through Public-Private Partnership. The private partner fronts most of the money to build it in exchange for the toll revenues. The tolling will be congestion-based, not a flat fee. Metro's numbers show that once you take into account the toll diversion rate, only 16% of the vehicles would use it. Think about where the other 84% will go??? I hope Alhambra is ready to live with 9 - 12 years of construction, during which 5 million cubic yards of dirt will be be excavated at the south portal. This translates to 294,000 truckloads being hauled away.
           
           
        • Frank Snyder Land was California's anyway move them away with imminent domain. That route will make everyone's life easier!
           
           
        • Denice Zabinski AMEN @Chuck San Dimas!!!
           
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